Let’s Talk with Terry Odell
Character Interview: Frankie Castor and Molly
By Terry Odell
The most important facet of any book for me, whether Iβm reading or writing, is characterization. Without characters the reader loves, everything else is secondary. So, how do I find the characters for my books? I advertise, of course! Hereβs how I found Frankie, the heroine of When Danger Calls.
Meet Frankie Castor β¦ and Molly.
βYes?β I say when my secretary calls. I have a break between appointments, and Iβm trying to refine some of my yet-to-be-discovered heroineβs goals, motivations and conflicts.
βWe might have a problem with the next applicant,β she says.
I consult my list. Frances Marie Castor. Four oβclock. So far, all Iβve seen are women who look like theyβre applying for a job at a strip club, not an action-adventure romance heroine. True, there are a few scenes where the heroine will have to play a cocktail waitress, but thatβs not what Iβm looking for. βWhat kind of problem?β
βHer sitter canβt make it, and she canβt find anyone to take care of her daughter.β
βHow old is the daughter?β I ask.
After a moment, my secretary returns to the line. βSheβs almost five.β
I wonder. Would it asking too much that I might be able to cast both roles at once? βTell her to bring her daughter along.β
Promptly at four, my secretary informs me Ms. Castor and her daughter have arrived. βShow them in,β I say. Giving a silent prayer that this will be my final interview, I flip to a clean sheet of my notepad and turn my attention to the door.
When it opens, my secretary leads the candidate in. She gives me a look that says, βAm I supposed to entertain the kid?β
I give her a quick head shake. βPlease come in, Ms. Castor.β Outwardly, sheβs got promise. Honey-blonde, with clear, blue eyes. Minimal makeup, and a few strands of hair escaped from her ponytail. Sheβs wearing khakis and a beige-and blue striped polo. Definitely not the stripper type. Girl next door all the way. My hopes lift a little higher. My gaze lowers to the child whoβs hanging back, clutching a backpack to her chest like a shield. Strawberry blonde, slight. Not exactly the image I had. For tension and conflict, I was looking for someone who resembled the Hispanic youngster Ryan Harper had failed to rescue before the book started.
Frances hesitates. βIβm sorry for the β¦ inconvenience, and I really appreciate you seeing me today. This is Molly.β I detect a quick nudge to the child, who lifts her head and gives me a polite smile, still keeping her eyes downcast. βHello.β
βMolly knows this is grownup time. Sheβll sit and read, or color. And will be very quiet.β Another nudge.
I get up, circle my desk, and crouch to Mollyβs level. βHi, Molly. Do you like to read?β
She nods.
βWell, I love to read, and I love to write stories, too. Whatβs your favorite book?β
She meets my gaze with a smile, and her cobalt-blue eyes are irresistible. Iβm already revising Mollyβs character description from a brown-eyed, dark-haired child to a blue-eyed strawberry blonde. Writing is all about the rewrites, after all.
βGreen Eggs and Ham,β she says. βI have it in my pack. I can read it to Mr. Snuggles all by myself.β
βVery good,β I say. I settle her on the love seat against the wall. βYou can read here while I talk to your mommy.β
Molly unzips her pack and takes out a well-worn copy of the Seuss classic. Next comes a well-worn, once-white stuffed dog, which she places on her lap. Mr. Snuggles, I presume. I make another mental note. As soon as she opens the book, sheβs reciting the familiar rhymes in soft tones.
I havenβt mentioned the role of a child, and I donβt say anything yet. Casting children is a headache. I prefer to see them in their natural state, not performing, but itβs almost impossible. Today is a rare exception.
βPlease sit down, Ms. Castor.β I direct her to one of my client chairs. βOr should I call you Frances.β
βCall me Frankie,β she says. βOnly my mom calls me Frances, and then itβs usually Frances Marie Castor, which means Iβm in trouble.β She sits. βExcuse my appearance. I had to come straight from workβI teach elementary school artβand I didnβt have time to change. Weβve been working on collages.β
As she sits, I get a brief whiff of Elmerβs glue. Much nicer than the cloying scents Iβve been exposed to all day. βTell me why you applied for this job.β
She takes a breath. βBottom line? The money.β
Honest, straightforward. I jot a note. βYou mentioned you have a job. Teaching.β
βIβm only a sub while the regular teacherβs on maternity leave. I had to move from Boston because my mother fell and broke her wrist, and my sisterβs husband got a great job, but it was in London, and they moved, and there was nobody to stay with Mom, so Molly and I moved out here and things are tight.β She glanced at Molly, then gave me a quick grin. βSorry. I β¦ um β¦ tend to babble when Iβm nervous.β
βThereβs no need to be nervous. Tell me about yourself. Your backstory, as we say in the business.β
She jumps right in. βI was born in Broken Bow, Montana. I wanted to experience the city life, couldnβt wait to get out. I wanted to be a photojournalist. Went to school in New York. Things got β¦ complicated.β She looks at Molly again, her gaze lingering this time. She turns back to me. βI ended up working for an interior design firm in Boston, until I got the call about Mom. And Iβm worried about her. She forgets things, and the budgetβwell, itβs in trouble, and the furnace needs to be fixedβreplaced would be betterβand thereβs Bob, her new boyfriend, andββ She gives me another wide grin. βIβm babbling again, arenβt I?β
I smile and add some notes to my page. βNot a problem.β After making sure Molly is still engrossed in her book, I lean across my desk and lower my voice. βYou do know that youβll have to have a consummated relationship for the job. Will that be a problem?β
She, too, checks on Molly. βDo I have to be β¦ you know β¦ real experienced? Because Iβm not looking for a man now. Not unless heβs going to put Molly first, and Iβve pretty much given up on those. I havenβt β¦ you know β¦ done it. Not sinceββ Another glance at Molly.
βIβve found that one experienced partner is usually enough,β I say. βBut it does happen on the page.β
She blushes a delightful shade of pink. βThe guy isnβt going to be a brute or anything, is he? Or too … kinky?β
βNo, definitely not a brute. And I donβt write erotica, so thereβs a very low kink quotient.β
After a brief moment of lip-chewing thought, she says, βI think Iβll be fine with it. No, I know Iβll be fine with it. Thereβs always a bright side to anything, and a little romance, even pretend, seems like a definite bright side to me right about now.β
I run through the last few questions quickly, making sure sheβs willing to deal with a German Shepherd, and isnβt afraid of horses or heights, before I drop the final question. βHow would you feel about Molly being in the book with you?β
Her eyes pop open. βI donβt know. Sheβs so young. Itβs an adult book, after all.β
βIf she can differentiate between real and pretend, she can probably handle the job. And Iβll run any of her scenes by you first, for approval.β
βThat sounds fair. But those β¦ romance scenes?β
βTrust me, she wonβt be on the page during any β¦ romance.β With a smile, I add, βAnd sheβll get paid for her time. Same rate as you.β
Frankie chews her lip again. She gets up and sits beside Molly. She whispers in her ear. Mollyβs eyes widen. She looks at me. βCan Mr. Snuggles be in the story too?β
βOf course,β I say. Heβll be very important.β
Molly grins. She stuffs her book in her pack and dangles Mr. Snuggles in front of her face. βWe can be in a storybook. Just like Sam I Am.β
Frankie crosses back to my desk, her hand outstretched. βWeβll do it.β
I shake her hand and escort the pair to the door. βMy secretary has the paperwork. Weβll start Monday, if thatβs all right.β
βItβll be fine,β Frankie says. They leave, and I tell my secretary to cancel tomorrowβs appointments and to hold all my calls. I have some writing to do.
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Do you ever feel like a character in a book is real? Someone youβd love to meet, or run into in the checkout line at the grocery store. Let us know who in the comments.
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My characters feel real to me. I sometimes think of them when I’m out and about. Mostly when I see glass art in a museum, or have a great meal in a cafe or see one of the dogs in my books.
Mine seem to hang in the backseat of my car. (Some have followed me into the shower to voice their opinions.)
What a unique character interview! Quite enjoyable!
Many of my characters are based on people I’ve known or combinations of various people. The most notable is Anastasia’s communist mother-in-law from my Anastasia Pollack Crafting Mystery series. She’s based on my own, now deceased, communist mother-in-law.
Thank you, Lois. I think there’s always a bit of someone we know, and often ourselves, in our characters.
I generally hear my characters talking to me when I’m out walking. Usually, it’s me eavesdropping. I pick up different personality traits that I see (for my current WIP, her scent is from someone I sat next to on the train). Some characters are very close to the vest and don’t want me to know all their deep dark secrets, and those are the ones I invite on those walks with me. Walking is a wonderful way to have a nice conversation π
Sometimes I think characters resent being stuck in the computer and are more willing to converse if we let them outdoors.
I love this interview and Frankie and Molly and Mr. Snuggles sound like the perfect characters for a Terry Odell book! I can’t wait to see them in action. My characters become real to me, and after writing seven Baxley Powell books I am having a hard time putting her on the back burner as I explore a new story world. I keep evaluating developments and settings in a “what would Baxley do” mindset! Fortunately, my new protag has plenty of chops so I am also switching hats to a “what would River do” platform.
Since most of my books are “connected” rather than series, I have a lot of characters to draw upon. Baxley strikes me as someone with a strong mind of her own.
The interview is a great technique for getting to know your characters. I do it with villains sometimes to get their motives and methods for the crime. As for who I feel is real? I’d like to have my heroine for my hairdresser and friend.
Thanks, Nancy. I had a lot of applicants for Frankie’s job, but I think her bringing Molly to the interview clinched the deal.
A fun interview. π Definitely your characters must feel like real people to you, the writer. Otherwise, how can they feel like real people to the reader? When readers talk about books they remember fondly, it’s not the plot (usually) that they recall. It’s the folks who populate the books who stick in their psyches.
So very true. Good characters can support a weak plot, but weak characters can’t help any story.